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By: Admin
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<p><span style="font-size: medium;">Just wanted to update everyone on the Review Crew. While the poll was in favor of having one, it just seemed to stir up too much emotion in people that were against it. The Review Crew was something I thought could be a valuable tool for musicians who wanted an honest opinion of their music in order to make it better.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">My suggestion for those of you who are looking for more in depth and honest feedback on your songs is to note the song information area. Also use the Spotlight Feature on your song to help dra attention to it. This way if reviewers take the the time to read your song information, they will know specifically what you are looking for. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">Maybe down the road we can revisit this topic and try again. Many thanks to all who participated and my apologies for folding on the idea even though the voting was in favor of it. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">Dazed<br /></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Gabriel
07/24/09 12:23:56PM @gabriel-sabadi:
Alrighty then. Enough with the DRAMA already !!!!! Make MUSIC and be happy.

And ..... HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS G. Have a wonderful one my dear friend!

Gabriel

Markyone
07/24/09 11:29:45AM @mark-reed:
Lol OK Rob I'll go with that, an opinionated blog it will be. I still think it's been done to death, but in a very unique and entertaining manner.

stay good guys

Luca Wulf
07/24/09 10:21:17AM @huge-artist:
You know full well that Brian's reaction is most likely as a direct result of the arguments.

Your last post is a good example.

Rob,I'm done.
You know full well what you are doing right now.
And best wishes with it,but it's not for me :)

If I ever recover,I'll still post my music here as I don't see this argument has anything to do with music.
But beyond that,I want nothing to do with this.....
Whatever you want to call it :)

So rant away old mate

Nigel.

Rob Grant
07/24/09 10:15:22AM @rayon-vert:
BUT!!!! I'm still SMILING!!! and I'm STILL, you're (Self-Proclaimed # 1 FAN), NIGEL!!!!!
Rob Grant
07/24/09 10:14:19AM @rayon-vert:
DELETE THE WHOLE THING AND ME TOO!!! How dare me question anything!?!?!?!? I'm not a PRO or even want to be.........I need to go to Disney World, where evrything is WONDERFUL!!!
Rob Grant
07/24/09 10:11:27AM @rayon-vert:
Because I questioned an agenda? What's the point? I'm fine with Brian. I just don't understand why he wouldn't want to Post music here, but he wants to post opinions. There is so much BS flying around, it just doesn't seem right.
Luca Wulf
07/24/09 09:48:53AM @huge-artist:
Dazed,IMHO press the delete mate,this is going to be never ending and folk are just going to get hurt all over again.

Nigel

Rob Grant
07/24/09 09:20:29AM @rayon-vert:
Argument? Not really.... It's an opinionated "Blog".......and since I have emotionally attached myself to this site, I can't help myself, but wonder certain things and express certain feelings.

To anyone new who come here and reads this......I'm sure it's HILARIOUS and I'm probably looked at as a "LOON". That's OK, because they haven't been around the site or don't have the same agenda or attitudes towards an OMD as I may. That's fine.

Brian, I have ONE Question.....WHY....do you come here to "Blog" and participate in these constructive thoughts to improve the site, when you have no intention of participating in the music or commenting on music, anyway. You stated it is "unlikely" that you will post music here in the future, so why bother post in the "Blogs"?

It's your "right" to do so, of course, but it just "seems" disruptive, while we're trying to move forward. HEY!!! I'm blaming ME, too. As everytime I "Blog" here....I am participating in what some may see as being sensless, pointless, and disruptive. It certainly has been wasting a lot of space in my head and that's MY problem........unfortunately, I have brought it oput to the public......and I really wish I didn't. I just can't help myself. It's me and I NEVER have learned to JUST keep my mouth shut. "Karma" will get me, as it always does......and I think it may have already started.

Rob

Markyone
07/24/09 08:47:47AM @mark-reed:
Hi all, I think the conclusion to this argument has been reached. people are gonna review, admin have put in place the means to select the kind of review you can ask for. I've done my bit in the reviewing process. I've had, and still get a lot of response from what I gave. I recently put up some very experimental work, the reviews I got changed my direction in how I was going to use those pieces. So in many ways it's how you as the recipient choose to view what is written

This is the last time I'll be commenting on a reviewing blog. There are issues with the process and maybe even what actually constitutes a review. How it should be counted etc. However that is an admin issue and as has been said, the process is being looked at.

As Nigel rightly says, it's about the music. Time to bury the argument.

all the best


Luca Wulf
07/24/09 08:19:12AM @huge-artist:
Brian...
I hope you econsider.
Remember,the land is what we make of it.

Nigel.

Rob Grant
07/24/09 08:11:25AM @rayon-vert:
Brother Nigel!! THAT would be best for me, that's for sure!!!
SO!!! Shut UP, Rob!!! You've gotten all the "attention" you could possibly need, both negative and positive, for a lifetime!! The site will do, with or without your opinions.....and I'm sure everybody is sick and tired of ALL of this balogne.....including yourself!! SO!!! Get a life, Rob!!
Me! Wake TFU!!!

selftort
07/24/09 08:00:41AM @self-tort:
Well said as always, Nigel. Very eloquently put.

And I agree, let's get back to music.

Unlikely I'll be posting any but best of luck to those that do.


Cheers

Brian

Rob Grant
07/24/09 04:56:47AM @rayon-vert:
Brian.....Everything you say is RIGHT ON the money!!! This is NOT everybody's "Rose Colored" world and it doesn't have to be. It's an open site...and it's expected that there will be a wide range of opinions. I was merely expressing my view and my agenda. You are expressing yours and I understand yours and it's all good with me. NOW!!! Since you've spent time here....I'm VERY HAPPY.....I hope you continue and I look forward to more music and I ALWAYS have LOVED reading your comments on my music. If I ever had an agenda for you, it would be to get your butt back here to stick around. BRIAN!!! You have been a HUGE part of this site and I miss the HECK out of ya.......as Nigel would say......A "minority member has spoken" NOT!!! That a minority would want you back....a MAJORITY would want you back......awwwwwwwwgeeeeeeeeeze!!! There I go again?!?!?!?! Can I ever say anything right!!?!? Love ya, Like at a net brother!!
Rob

selftort
07/23/09 09:09:32PM @self-tort:

selftort
07/23/09 05:31:18AM @self-tort:
At the risk of hogging this blog, I thought I should indicate that as soon as I had posted my most recent entry I received communication from Rob Grant (who would not have had the chance of seeing my entry) confirming he had asked his entry to be removed.

Rick (reapersg) also confirmed this by PM.

I still don't quite understand that we are able to go back in time and erase events that we don't like, but in saying that I'm not in any way having a shot at Rob or Rick or the admins.

I accept that admin are working through things. But just don't think that the rose coloured world is necessarily the best. In the rose coloured world, for example, the blues wouldn't exist.

Cheers

Brian

selftort
07/23/09 05:00:01AM @self-tort:
I'm even more bemused. Rob Grant had posted a further response to this thread. It's now not there. I've seen things disappear here a few times on this site lately. I didn't agree with all of Rob's points, but he and I have had differences of opinion over the years which has never stopped us keeping what I believe is a close friendship. If his post was deleted because it may have offended me it was a gross overreaction.

I understood this to be an "admin blog" and presume that Rob didn't have the capacity to remove his post. If that's right I can't see why it was deleted. And if it was deleted at Rob's request, I find that weird too. I've left threads in here that I've woken up the next morning and thought "did I really post that". I realise that in those circumstances I have to deal with the people that I've upset or offended. That's part of life. Often dealing with delicate and difficult situations has the capacity of bringing people closer together.


I assume that I was the person that had got under Rob's goat. As I said above, that's happened before and vice versa and we've been able to work it out between us.

I really do not understand what's happening in here at the moment.

Cheers

Brian

Mike-K
07/20/09 04:35:13PM @mike-kohlgraf:
I think, the new Review Option feature will work well. If someone feels inclined to get really "to the bottom" of a tune, they will. And that's very cool! Everyone can be giving input from their experience as to what works and what doesn't.

I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

Cheers, Mix'ers!

Mike

Blue Period Blues
07/19/09 06:29:35PM @ramperampe:
True WHP.I too have gained some insight into a lot of other things
Luca Wulf
07/18/09 06:01:39PM @huge-artist:
Ah,ignore me :)
I have a sense of humour that comes from having been round this merry go round a few times before :)

I mean no harm :)

Nigel

Blue Period Blues
07/18/09 04:53:42PM @ramperampe:
Glad someone got a chuckle out of this mess...cheers mate
Luca Wulf
07/18/09 12:52:24PM @huge-artist:
LOL..........

It's all going to be awesome forever :)

Nigel




Blue Period Blues
07/17/09 01:22:43PM @ramperampe:
Airemeki44...If people voted against the RC it's not because they don't understand it or are not "ready" for it.They reflected upon the matter and had their reason to decide against it, whatever reason that was...just like the others that were in favor...that's how a poll works you know

Dazed....If the majority of the voters were in favor , then Mixposure should implement the feature...That's why polls are used.If the voters opinion don't count, then Mixposure should implement new features without a poll.

Luca Wulf
07/17/09 07:34:30AM @huge-artist:
The minority have spoken LOL

You tried mate,all you can do.

Nigel

Hydrogen3
07/16/09 07:21:01PM @hydrogen3:
The forum idea seems like a simple solution to all this. I am not sure why anyone would be against it? If they don't want to participate than they don't have to. Just those who looking for advice. Not sure what problem is here???
airmeki44
07/16/09 02:41:37PM @blue-sahara:
Gabe, this was the idea all along. Just not in the forum, but a feature an artist could have chosen by open up their songs for the crew ...
Rob Grant
07/16/09 06:17:15AM @rayon-vert:
Dazed, I think this will work as well as the RC. There have been times people have asked for specific requests, to which I have added comments. This is a good idea. I like this a lot.......I like having a book in my pants, before getting spanked.
Rob

Luca Wulf
07/24/09 07:03:41AM @huge-artist:
Ah well,now that all made interesting reading.
I have to say it was all pretty much as expected,and there-in lays my humour :)

How can you get re-angry at something yuo understand so well?
You get wet when it rains,so there is no point shaking your fist at the sky.


Even an O P T I O N scares some people because of what it COULD be made to stand for or imply.

The time is not right and the people are not right.
Maybe one day,but no here,not now.

I have said it all before...
Guys,concentrate purely on what you NEED.
Your music is at the heart of everything you do online,therefor it is NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

I think I know most of you pretty well,and none of you need the grief this brings right?
It clouds your mind.it takes something enjoyable and alters it.
It gets in the way of something you should ONLY find pleasure in.

Please,return to your music.
Clear your minds of this,nothing erally happened after all did it?

So let it be :)
I admire you all for your honesty and integrity of beliefs.

Now stop and go back to your music.
We will return to this at some point in the future,and like all good generals,we will have learned from the tactics of the last battle.

Your all my mates,you're all each others mates,and the music unites,if you want it to.

Nigel.

airmeki44
07/16/09 02:39:40PM @blue-sahara:
I don't blame you Dazed. Thanks for the idea and for going this bone-dry, winding road, trying to implement a cool new feature. It some people just don't want understand; I guess, we're not ready yet for ideas like this one was.
I'm saddened by it, yes. I'm saddened to see how the actual Review situation develops right now ... never did one get as little reviews (i.e., pads+praises, lol) than now.
Anyways, without further rant - thanks for all your efforts D.
Heinz.

Rob Grant
07/23/09 06:21:28AM @rayon-vert:
This is my "Rose colored" world. Why shouldn't be? Does everything have to have negativity attached to it? Brian, you know me pretty good now.....all I wanted to do, by having my comment removed, was avoid having you think it was a shot at you. It wasn't, AT ALL. It was just an opinion about OMD's in general. Why can't people except the fact that these are open sites for all levels of musicianship and everybody has different agendas. I am 58 years old and don't give a rats @ss about becoming an audio engineer. I do the best I can, I am always learning and have friends that help. I LIKE "pats on the back" and if someone thinks I suck, I'd rather they keep it to themselves and not listen to my music. Pain and simple. I don't knock others for there imperfections and I don't expect to be knocked. As far as I've seen...there is not one successful STAR here. There are a H@LL of a lot of SUPER Musicians, but what does that mean, that's all just my opinion. They are MY SUPER MUSICIANS!! Would everybody agree on who I think are the SUPER MUSICIANS? Brian, I have ALL the RESPECT in the world for and you ARE one of my FAVORITE people to interact with. This is my SAFE Rose Colored Haven and I hope it stays POSITIVE!!!
Rob

selftort
07/22/09 06:06:28PM @self-tort:
As one of those involved in the raising of this issue many months ago now, I'm somewhat bemused that the RSC has been voted for by a majority of those who bothered to vote, but has nonetheless been scarpered. That's admin's prerogative and I don't criticise them for that.

But if the ethos of the site is let's not offend anyone, which unfortunately I think it is, don't expect the New Review Option to change anything. Why would anyone bother taking the time to listen carefully to someone else's music and make constructive suggestions when with a couple of pats on the back you're likely to get much more feedback. Even review your own tracks and you'll leap up the charts if that's what turns you on.

Good luck with it, but don't hold your breath. Fortunately, I'm in a similar position to one which Farrell Jackson mentioned in an earlier blog. There are people I've got to know over the years who are prepared to tell me what they really think and vice versa. I just thought the collective talent and wisdom in here might have been able to be put to better purpose.

And Nigel, glad to see you can see the humour in the situation.

Cheers

Brian

Gabriel
07/16/09 01:08:07PM @gabriel-sabadi:
Just a suggestion Dazed. I don't think having critical reviews is a bad thing at all for those that want it. Maybe setting up a "critique my track" section in the forum may be a good starting point?

Gabriel

Gabriel
07/26/09 01:43:32PM @gabriel-sabadi:
Lol....I think he fell asleep in his hot tub Gina !!!!!
Rob Grant
07/24/09 05:48:50PM @rayon-vert:
I am WAY out of line here and needlessly so. Sorry for the drama and pointless passion. It REALLY is ridiculous. I have no right to speak for Mixposure.....or call anyone out in public. I was wrong to do so and I apologize to Brian and Mixposure.
Rob
That's it No More Drama

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