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Site Changes Ahead
<p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Well I have been working on getting this for some time and it appears we will be testing it possibly this weekend. It may bother some and I know it will make some people ecstatic! Unlike the Review Crew saga though, love it or hate it, this is getting implemented. <br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The change that will be going in is a limit on song uploads based on song reviews. So if I sign up as an artist today on Mixposure, I will be allowed to only upload 2 songs. I will not be able to upload any other songs until day two. I will also not be able to upload any more songs until I have 5 song reviews. This means Song Reviews and not Artist Reviews, Blog Comments etc. or reviews on my own songs. Mixposure Premium Members will just be limited to the number of uploads per day which will probably be 5. <br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span style="font-size: medium;">As you can see, this will not effect most artists here on Mixposure.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Thanks for Supporting Mixposure!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Dazed<br /></span></span></p>
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Slight bug in the program that we are working on.
Dazed,
Not trying to be a "wet blanket", mate.
Just pointing out that if people are made to do things they don't necessarily do them the way you want them to.
I think it's a good idea and am not in any way trying to put it down.
I was merely trying to point out that not every new member is going to see it the way you intended.
I have been around OMDs long enough to know that there will be people out there who will see this as a "red rag to a bull".
There's no problem to the rationale you've adopted. The problem is that reason does not always operate on those who believe their music is the best that's ever been heard and will do whatever it takes to get others to share their views.
The "flaming review" has traditionally been a very good way to get attention. I've not seen it on this version of mixposure, but on the former incarnation it was as regular as clockwork. We think we're great, these people seem very comfortable, let's stir them up.
And their premise was pretty right. The recent poll which was lost by a few hanging chads was a perfect example. Most of the people in here don't want to be told about the ways they can improve. They don't see that as constructive. Recently, a review which, in my view, correctly pointed out that the various instruments were not "in time" was seen by the artist as a "not constructive review". The track was, last time I looked, deleted, as was the accompanying review. As a long term musician, who has no tickets on his instrumental ability, I'd have thought that being told you were out of time was fairly constructive. It's certainly something that I'd like to know as an artist, and something that I'd be horrified to think that people were not prepared to tell me
So if people are going to be upset about such objective factors as tempo and timing, imagine what the reaction will be to some "new artist" coming in thinking they've found their new utopia, then finding that before they can upload their full arsenal of brilliant music they have to provide 5 reviews. 90% of them will fit in with the spirit of the site. But I can see a couple of canny managers out there thinking, this is manna from heaven. Get stuck into the mainstream artists on this site and watch them howl. And they will. They always do. We will then have the forum full of complaints of bad reviews. A week later, one of the band who has provided the bad reviews will apologise saying that the drummer (it's nearly always the drummer) has gone off on a frolic of his own and was not authorised by the band. The band will offer counselling to the drummer, in the hope that the site will let the band stay. Those most offended by the bad reviews will fall over themselves, even offering counselling themselves, and lo and behold, next thing you know, the offending band is the next No 1 in the charts.
You may think this is cynical. It's not. It's Groundhog Day. Been there done that so many times that i really don't want to go back there.
I hope I'm wrong. I repeat I'm not trying to be a "wet blanket". I think the changes are worth making. But I really think you need to keep your mods on "red alert" and maybe offer them overtime
Cheers mate.
Brian
Hey Brian!
I think it will help new members get in the habit of reviewing. I tested this out yesterday and it is close. I am hoping to implement it today.
This sounds like an interesting idea.. but I guess I am not quite clear on how this would work.. what if I upload a song and only get a couple comments on it and it has been several days? Will I be able to upload a new song or modify the existing one I just uploaded if I made some changes/corrections?
Linda and Gary are making some great points which make absolute sense. You know I am supporting this move, of course!!!
Good move, Dazed!
Cheers,
Mike
I think this is a great idea Dazed. There have been many times I've seen Artists add a new song. And then almost immediately get bumped and missed because someone else came along and added 10, sometimes 20 new songs in one night. I know that you can always hit (more), but I am guilty of reviewing the ones that I see on the main page first. And I will only listen to one or two newly posted at a time from the same artist anyway. Possibly missing out on some really great tunes. I know that Mix is growing, But I think everyone deserves to be seen and heard there, if at all possible. IMO It's a matter of respect for the other artists as well. And I have to agree with Gary, it does make it more interesting for the listener.. This is just my opinion, so I hope no one is offended..
Gina - People pay good money for that in NY and LA. We offer this service for free.
LOL ICP!
Gary I agree 100%
I knew you would be on board Nigel
Good common sense.
Nigel.
I'm not sure why someone would upload a bunch of songs all at once in the first place...best to spread out your songs over time...Makes it a bit more interesting to the listener...pumps them up for the next song! Kind of like a hook!! But this is just my 2 cents worth of thinking! - Gary -
In general I think that the restriction of the number of uploads in one hit needs to be addressed. Linda's style of listening is similar to mine. I come in and check the new songs. If I find that the first two pages are dominated by bulk uploads by a couple of artists, either through laziness or frustration I will only review a couple of tracks. If I see a page full of different artists I'll keep going.
Just a word of warning, though. By effectively limiting the change to new members the problem could well continue although clearly to a lesser extent because of the overall daily limit.
And the requirement to review could cause some collateral damage. Artists coming to the site and being required to review might adopt the attitude of being nice to get reviews back, or may be honest which could cause some whooping and hollering.
A good idea, which I hope works.
Cheers
Brian
Personally I would like to see ALL the upload counts kept at a max of 2 a day, regardless of your status as a member.
Totally agree with you Farrell, this has been one of my pet peeves for a very long time. Dazed politely asked us, I think a year ago, to keep the uploads to a minimum. Don't blame him one bit for implementing this feature.
Holley - It has nothing to do with how many comments you receive. This is really for people who do not review at all. They will just be limited to 2 uploads until they review 5 songs. Then they can upload the other 3 songs. Subscription accounts will just be limited to 5 uploads a day. If you have more than 5 song reviews, there will never be an issue uploading music. So as you can see, this is really geared toward new members.
Dazed...
Just a thought.
I have noticed how some review on the BAND page,not the actual song review page.
Maybe that need re-explaining,else they might think they have done the required number of reviews,when the system might not recognise that?
Nigel.
Nothing irritates me more than to see 10 songs and sometimes more of the same artist loaded on the front page. I typically just pass them by and page on down to a song title that looks interesting or a familar artist and spend my time there. So Dazed I think limiting the songs upload is a great idea and it will have me listening to and reviewing more new artist songs!
Farrell
I hear you Brian. But the odds of us pleasing all 4000+ members on every change is slim so the goal is to please as many as we can. As I said, this will not effect most members here because they already have more than 5 reviews.
Truthfully we are kind of taking a backseat on unwelcome reviews. The members can delete them and there is really no need to cry foul to the mods/admins. If they want to yell at each other about it, they can private message each other and even block each other. If it gets to the point of harassment, we will obviously step in.
Just an observation, and not a complaint. But a quick look at the new songs list shows that 1 artist has 11 of the 30 most recently added tracks. Maybe those 30 songs have stretched over three days, but at first blush it doesn't seem that the 5 day limit is applying. And if it is applying it doesn't seem to be working.
Bulk uploads are a real lose/lose situation. It bumps single upload artists of the front page and doesn't do much for the artist whose bulk uploading. The general concensus seems to be that we like to share our listening time. If you upload 5 songs in a day a lot of them are going to get lost.
Is there any way we can point that out to new members.
As I say, this is an observation, not a complaint. Although I have posted a track in the last 12 hours it's not sour grapes, because I've raised this issue before from a listener's perspective.
Cheers
Brian
No worries
Nigel
oh I get it ....